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Developerworks (was: LVM and RAID) (Tarus Balog) 11. Re: Developerworks (was: LVM and RAID) (Tanner Lovelace) 12. Re: red hat sendmail rpms with tls support? (Rodent of Unusual Size) 13. ssh questions (Mike M) 14. Re: First State government to use Open Source Technology (Jeremy Portzer) 15. Re: ssh questions (Tanner Lovelace) 16. where M$ is going... (gregbrown@apple.netscape2.comscape2.com) 17. [Trilug-announce] TriLUG Meeting Changes - Mark Turner from Lulu to give LDAP talk! (Lisa C. Boyd) 18. Re: [Trilug-announce] TriLUG Meeting Changes - Mark Turner from Lulu to give LDAP talk! (Lisa C. Boyd) 19. Nominate Roy Vestal (Tanner Lovelace) 20. Re: [Trilug-announce] TriLUG Meeting Changes - Mark Turner from Lulu to give LDAP talk! (Michael Thompson) 21. Re: Nominate Roy Vestal (Tarus Balog) 22. Re: [Trilug-announce] TriLUG Meeting Changes - Mark Turner from Lulu to give LDAP talk! (Jeremy Portzer) 23. Re: ssh questions (Mike M) 24. Re: First State government to use Open Source Technology (Mike M) 25. Re: red hat sendmail rpms with tls support? (Lisa Lorenzin) 26. Re: [Trilug-announce] TriLUG Meeting Changes - Mark Turner from Lulu to give LDAP talk! (JoJo Almario) 27. Re: [Trilug-announce] TriLUG Meeting Changes - Mark Turner from Lulu to give LDAP talk! (JoJo Almario) 28. Re: no rc.local file in SUSE8.0 (Stephen P. Schaefer) 29. Scripting question (Janyne Kizer) 30. Re: First State government to use Open Source Technology (Janyne Kizer) 31. Re: Scripting question (Janyne Kizer) 32. Re: Scripting question (Stephen P. Schaefer) 33. Re: Scripting question (Jeremy Portzer) 34. Re: Scripting question (Greg Cox) 35. Re: Scripting question (Tanner Lovelace) 36. Re: Scripting question (Stephen P. Schaefer) 37. Re: Scripting question (Stephen P. Schaefer) 38. Re: Scripting question - better answer (Jeremy Portzer) 39. Re: [Trilug-announce] TriLUG Meeting Changes - Mark Turner from Lulu to give LDAP talk! (Lisa C. Boyd) 40. Re: poppassd and ldap (Chris Hedemark) 41. Re: RH8 up2date Crashing (Chris Hedemark) 42. Re: Scripting question (Janyne Kizer) 43. Re: AGP card suggestion please (Roy Vestal) 44. Re: Boot Loaders and the like (Roy Vestal) 45. Re: Donations (Roy Vestal) 46. Re: Donations (Roy Vestal) 47. Re: Donations (Roy Vestal) 48. Re: Nominate Roy Vestal (Chris Hedemark) 49. Huge thanks to Mark! (Lisa C. Boyd) 50. Re: Huge thanks to Mark! (Mike Johnson) 51. printer drivers (Elremx@apple.netscape2.comscape.net) 52. Re: SPAM filters (Jon Carnes) 53. RE: Boot Loaders and the like (Jim Ray) 54. RE: [Trilug-announce] TriLUG Meeting Changes - Mark Turner from Lulu to give LDAP talk! (Jim Ray) 55. Re: Nominate Roy Vestal (Sinner from the Prairy) 56. RE: [Trilug-announce] TriLUG Meeting Changes - Mark Turner from Lulu to give LDAP talk! (Mark Turner) 57. RE: [Trilug-announce] TriLUG Meeting Changes - Mark Turner from Lulu to give LDAP talk! (Michael Thompson) 58. Re: printer drivers (Mike Broome) 59. Re: printer drivers (Sinner from the Prairy) 60. Re: printer drivers (Elremx@apple.netscape2.comscape.net) 61. Re: [Trilug-announce] TriLUG Meeting Changes - Mark Turner from Lulu to give LDAP talk! (Lisa C. Boyd) 62. 1 or 2 nics inside the lan? (bp) 63. Re: linuux mouse kvm problems (Lisa C. Boyd) 64. Re: Win4Lin(was linuux mouse kvm problems) (Lisa C. Boyd) 65. best method of auto mail deletion? (Greg Brown) 66. Re: best method of auto mail deletion? (Andrew Perrin) 67. Re: Win4Lin(was linuux mouse kvm problems) (Jeremy Portzer) --__--__-- Message: 1 Subject: Re: [TriLUG] red hat sendmail rpms with tls support? From: Tanner Lovelace To: trilug@trilug.org Date: 09 Jan 2003 12:48:50 -0500 Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org --=-anLwmN/zFEjQF1M2jmIi Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 10:27, Jeremy Portzer wrote: >> Isn't this so that the service can be run by the standard >> /etc/rc.d/init.d/ paradigm (ie, the "service" command)? I don't see >> what's wrong with that -- it makes it much easier when all services are >> started/stopped the same way. I agree that previous versions of the >> apache initscript in Red Hat were buggy ("service apache stop" would >> kill all instances of apache if you had multiple versions installed) but >> that's been fixed now. Also, the services being in /etc/init.d is specified by the Linux Standard Base, so it would appear in this case that it's apache that's the contrary one, while Redhat is the standard one? =20 >> I haven't ever built sendmail from source, so this might be bogus, but >> for most applications it's better to enable a function/feature with an >> option to the configure script. Can you do this with sendmail? Just >> editing the Makefile to add a define probably won't do what you need, >> since configure does a lot of other "magic" to enable certain features >> (ie, related entries in config.h). It depends on the application, but very often you can add something to a makefile to enable things. >>> > latest news: sendmail 8.12 rpm needs db-4. db-4 needs jdkgcj. >>> > jdkgcj needs gcjlib. gcjlib needs gcc-java. now why the flying >>> > moose ears does a db package need java libraries??? > >>=20 >> It's probably because there are APIs for calling db4 from Java. As more >> and more packages get sophisticated and compatible with each other, they >> need more and more libraries. I think it's a fact of life, and disk >> space is cheap! But I understand your frustration. If the db-4 rpm itself needs java, I would say that's not a very good packaging job. Something like that should be put in a=20 separate package so it can be installed or not as desired. From=20 experience with building new rpms on older systems, though, something like apt4rpm (or mandrake's urpmi) is very useful. It allows you to install the dependencies you can (that are already provided) and then you can go about building the ones you need. Cheer, Tanner --=20 Tanner Lovelace | lovelace(at)wayfarer.org | http://wtl.wayfarer.org/ --*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*-- GPG Fingerprint =3D A66C 8660 924F 5F8C 71DA BDD0 CE09 4F8E DE76 39D4 GPG Key can be found at http://wtl.wayfarer.org/lovelace.gpg.asc --*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*-- 101010 - The Ultimate answer to Life, the Universe and Everything. --=-anLwmN/zFEjQF1M2jmIi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA+HbYCzglPjt52OdQRAvFqAJ0VpvK9FQKxp9L45hm2O6muIz77KQCfTCBi OL9khaLlU0ra4/+l7GoUgBo= =Kq9C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-anLwmN/zFEjQF1M2jmIi-- --__--__-- Message: 2 Subject: Re: [TriLUG] red hat sendmail rpms with tls support? From: Jeremy Katz To: trilug@trilug.org Organization: Date: 09 Jan 2003 12:53:04 -0500 Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 11:15, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: >> Jeremy Portzer wrote: > >>> > On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 09:54, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: >> >>>> >>wrt apache, rh completely ignored/modified/whacked the apachectl >>>> >>script, giving it a different name, arguments, and location. >>>> >>other things, too, but that's the most serious in terms of support. >>>> >>fortunately, mark cox tells me they stopped doing this for 8.0 >>>> >>(maybe 7.3), but since i run neither 8.0 nor the apache rpm i >>>> >>haven't verified. >> >>> > >>> > Isn't this so that the service can be run by the standard >>> > /etc/rc.d/init.d/ paradigm (ie, the "service" command)? I don't see >>> > what's wrong with that > >> >> aside from the fact that apachectl as shipped with apache *already does*? >> and that if they had any changes, they could just leave apachectl in the >> apache hierarchy and wrapper it with an rc script? but no, they had to >> scrap apachectl and rewrite it. n-i-h. Ummm, except perhaps for the fact that there was an rc script before apachectl existed. ISTR that apachectl was new in apache 1.3 and apache has been shipped in Red Hat Linux since before that. Should it have been rewritten when apache 1.3 came out with apachectl? Maybe, but there were like 2 people doing the entire distribution then and it probably fell into the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" category ;-) >>>> >>latest news: sendmail 8.12 rpm needs db-4. db-4 needs jdkgcj. >>>> >>jdkgcj needs gcjlib. gcjlib needs gcc-java. now why the flying >>>> >>moose ears does a db package need java libraries??? >> >>> > >>> > >>> > It's probably because there are APIs for calling db4 from Java. As more >>> > and more packages get sophisticated and compatible with each other, they >>> > need more and more libraries. I think it's a fact of life, and disk >>> > space is cheap! But I understand your frustration. > >> >> aside from the fact that i have jikes, but was forced to install the >> gcc compiler. I'm sure the sleepycat people would take patches. It's obvious that they'll take patches for anything based on the continuous changes to berkeley db that break compatibility. But that's a rant for another day :) Jeremy --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 12:51:43 -0500 From: Ben Simpson To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: [TriLUG] help!! I can no longer send email to ldap users with postfix Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org I have done something to ldap and now I can't send emails to ldap users just system users. I have no clue what I broke. I have tried everything I know to fix it. short of reinstalling everything. I can ftp to the server using ldap entries. so I know that Ldap works. Does anyone have any suggestions? anything I can test? Ben --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:33:36 -0500 To: trilug@trilug.org From: davis Subject: [TriLUG] bitkeeper Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org Hello Anybody use bitkeeper here? I'm confused about it. I bk clone an existing repository. Then I do a bk -r get of the files. Everything looks good, but if do another bk -r get, I get all the files again. I was expecting to only get files which changed since the last time I did a get. What is the deal? -- Happy Trails John F. Davis ABC #6334 92 R100GSPD --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:16:47 -0500 From: Nathan Conrad > Hello >>=20 >> Anybody use bitkeeper here? >>=20 >> I'm confused about it. I bk clone an existing repository. Then >> I do a bk -r get of the files. Everything looks good, but >> if do another bk -r get, I get all the files again. I was expecting >> to only get files which changed since the last time I did a get. >> What is the deal? >>=20 >> --=20 >> Happy Trails >> John F. Davis >> ABC #6334 92 R100GSPD=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> TriLUG mailing list >> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug >> TriLUG Organizational FAQ: >> http://www.trilug.org/~lovelace/faq/TriLUG-faq.html --=20 Nathan J. Conrad (XXX)-687-7449 http://bungled.net 312 Moore Hall // UNC-C // Charlotte, NC 28223-0001 GPG: F4FC 7E25 9308 ECE1 735C 0798 CE86 DA45 9170 3112 --neYutvxvOLaeuPCA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+HbyPzobaRZFwMRIRAt1mAJ4vAeOnjQfSzR0h6E3Tqs2xb35mkACfTRJ+ p9+rmD3JX6Z9sRdoSNjtuAk= =y94/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --neYutvxvOLaeuPCA-- --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:18:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Pgres Howto's and Manuals From: "Wayne Henley" To: Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org You can try: http://www.ca.postgresql.org/users-lounge/index.html or http://www.ca.postgresql.org/docs/awbook.html and http://www.commandprompt.com/ppbook/ I found the above sites very useful during a recent implementation. Wh John Warf said: >> Can anyone recommend a good website on pgres databases? (Setups, Working >> with, etc...) >> >> John >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TriLUG mailing list >> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug >> TriLUG Organizational FAQ: >> http://www.trilug.org/~lovelace/faq/TriLUG-faq.html --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Roy Vestal" To: Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:29:05 -0500 Subject: [TriLUG] First State government to use Open Source Technology Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2B7E3.14C550D0" ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2B7E3.14C550D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rhode Island is using a Linux based MySQL DB for some of the gov't work. 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'errata' is defined according to the rh release: 62==6.2, 73==7.3, 100==8.0, et cetera. the comments in the spec file indicate 'to build for a version, change the errata value appropriately.' so it *seems* to be as simple as setting errata to 72 for my 7.2 build. except that doesn't include tls support. if i frob the 7.2 patch file to include tls, that would be the ticket -- except i expect it will explode.. no thirty on this. -- #ken P-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 13:56:26 -0500 From: Rodent of Unusual Size Organization: The Apache Software Foundation To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] First State government to use Open Source Technology Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org Roy Vestal wrote: >> Rhode Island is using a Linux based MySQL DB for some of the gov't work. >> >> Article from EWeek >> >> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,808852,00.asp ah, no, new hampshire has been doing it for a while now.. but it's good news nevertheless. -- #ken P-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 14:04:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Tarus Balog" To: Subject: [TriLUG] Developerworks (was: LVM and RAID) Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org Sinner from the Prairy said: >> Good'ole IBM Developworks! Their tutorial, howtos and tech papers are >> quite good. And IBM is also a TriLug Gold Sponsor. Developerworks recently featured OpenNMS: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-jmx3/ -T -- Tarus Balog Consultant Sortova Consulting Group, http://www.obfuscated.moc +1-XXX-XXX-XXXX tarus@yahoo.hotmail2.org> To: trilug@trilug.org Date: 09 Jan 2003 14:16:02 -0500 Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org --=-/luoWK9/FT7FRkFsRoCp Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 14:04, Tarus Balog wrote: >>=20 >> Sinner from the Prairy said: >>=20 > >>> > Good'ole IBM Developworks! Their tutorial, howtos and tech papers are >>> > quite good. And IBM is also a TriLug Gold Sponsor. > >>=20 >> >> Developerworks recently featured OpenNMS: >>=20 >> http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-jmx3/ >>=20 >> Yeah, but I noticed they got the year wrong in the condensed history of OpenNMS sidebar. :-) Cheers, Tanner --=20 Tanner Lovelace | lovelace(at)wayfarer.org | http://wtl.wayfarer.org/ --*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*-- GPG Fingerprint =3D A66C 8660 924F 5F8C 71DA BDD0 CE09 4F8E DE76 39D4 GPG Key can be found at http://wtl.wayfarer.org/lovelace.gpg.asc --*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*-- "Junk food is considered part of the vegetable food group, because it=20 comes from a plant. A big chemical plant. In New Jersey." - Kludge Dorsey --=-/luoWK9/FT7FRkFsRoCp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA+HcpyzglPjt52OdQRAtL/AJ9d0kH5zT/gqDRVvwft2ABFyRC/MwCgsy5u 7ARWxt0cwJ01UrMn4p7mOg0= =ReV7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-/luoWK9/FT7FRkFsRoCp-- --__--__-- Message: 12 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 14:15:30 -0500 From: Rodent of Unusual Size Organization: The Apache Software Foundation To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] red hat sendmail rpms with tls support? Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: >> >> so it *seems* to be as simple as setting errata to 72 for my 7.2 build. >> except that doesn't include tls support. if i frob the 7.2 patch >> file to include tls, that would be the ticket -- except i expect it >> will explode.. no thirty on this. yee-haw. modified the patch1 file and the spec file and did an rpm -ba, and it worked. (minor bobble: need --notriggers to keep it from varfing against linuxconf.) install it, create the keys, and EHLO shows starttls as an option. coolness. too bad it was such an undertaking.. but 'whatever doesn't kill you outright makes you stronger.' right? anyone interested in the patches, just ask.. thanks, everyone, for your help and patience through my bad temper. red hat gains back some karma points for it not being as bad as i initially thought. -- #ken P-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" --__--__-- Message: 13 From: Mike M To: trilug@trilug.org Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 02:41:14 -0500 Subject: [TriLUG] ssh questions Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org I removed the contents of ~/.ssh2 in my client account and found that could login in to a remote machine with just the account password. Is this password authentication instead of public key authentication? Do I change /etc/ssh2/sshd2_config on the ssh2 server to force public key authentication only? I tried to bring my SSH2 generated private key (id_dsa_1024_a) to an OpenSSH client. I put the contents into ~/.ssh/id_dsa. When I tried to login to a remote account I was repeatedly prompted for the passphrase for key in ~/.ssh/id_dsa. Am I trying to do a bogus operation? Thanks, -- Mike M. --__--__-- Message: 14 Subject: Re: [TriLUG] First State government to use Open Source Technology From: Jeremy Portzer To: trilug@trilug.org Date: 09 Jan 2003 14:41:23 -0500 Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 13:29, Roy Vestal wrote: >> Rhode Island is using a Linux based MySQL DB for some of the gov't work. >> >> Article from EWeek >> >> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,808852,00.asp Um, what makes them "first" ? I work for the state and use mysql, have been for several years now. :-) --Jeremy --__--__-- Message: 15 Subject: Re: [TriLUG] ssh questions From: Tanner Lovelace To: trilug@trilug.org Date: 09 Jan 2003 14:51:06 -0500 Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org --=-g9ECcr2G5ac11VzWw5x4 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 02:41, Mike M wrote: >> I removed the contents of ~/.ssh2 in my client account and found that cou= ld=20 >> login in to a remote machine with just the account password. >>=20 >> Is this password authentication instead of public key authentication? Do= I=20 >> change /etc/ssh2/sshd2_config on the ssh2 server to force public key=20 >> authentication only? Yes, it's password authentication. You can disallow that in the server config (at least on OpenSSH, don't know about "official" ssh). The OpenSSH config file is /etc/ssh/sshd_config. >> I tried to bring my SSH2 generated private key (id_dsa_1024_a) to an Open= SSH=20 >> client. I put the contents into ~/.ssh/id_dsa. When I tried to login to= a=20 >> remote account I was repeatedly prompted for the passphrase for key in=20 >> ~/.ssh/id_dsa. Am I trying to do a bogus operation? id_dsa is normally your private key. The corresponding public key is id_dsa.pub and that's what I generally put on the remote server, while id_dsa stays on the client. It won't work, afaik, without both. Cheers, Tanner --=20 Tanner Lovelace | lovelace(at)wayfarer.org | http://wtl.wayfarer.org/ --*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*-- GPG Fingerprint =3D A66C 8660 924F 5F8C 71DA BDD0 CE09 4F8E DE76 39D4 GPG Key can be found at http://wtl.wayfarer.org/lovelace.gpg.asc --*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*-- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself=20 without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine,=20 receives light without darkening me. -- Thomas Jefferson --=-g9ECcr2G5ac11VzWw5x4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA+HdKqzglPjt52OdQRArtpAJ9JGXZg2a3fx9L1Jy5Dr/43japtSACgyQGT D5m4QAYQESemIZGkpxPSfOU= =62YT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-g9ECcr2G5ac11VzWw5x4-- --__--__-- Message: 16 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 15:06:34 -0500 From: To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: [TriLUG] where M$ is going... Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org LAS VEGAS, Nevada (Reuters) -- Trying to move its software from desktops to people's hands and pockets I thougth M$ was already in our pockets. Imagine.. DRM on your wristwatch and fridge magnets. This acticle gives me the creeps. <"http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/01/09/microsoft.watch.reut/index.html"> Greg --__--__-- Message: 17 From: "Lisa C. Boyd" To: Trilug-announce Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 14:59:02 -0500 Subject: [TriLUG] [Trilug-announce] TriLUG Meeting Changes - Mark Turner from Lulu to give LDAP talk! Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org Due to unfortunate circumstances, our speaker for tonight (Rob) was unable to make it. His flight was canceled and he could not get another flight in time for the meeting. Mark Turner from Lulu has agreed to speak on LDAP tonight. Mark has been working with LDAP for three years now, having deployed it in small offices as well as global environments. His diabolical plan is to make the world LDAP enabled. Since we haven't given Mark much notice, this will be an introductory talk showing how to get LDAP up and running. The Steering Committee will also be giving an official State of the LUG speech. We'll have the usual have a job/need a job time, free pizza and plenty of soft drinks. We are still going to meet in the Cox building at RTI [1 for directions]. We're sorry for all the last minute changes this month, but want to give a huge thanks to Mark for agreeing to speak tonight :) [1] http://www.trilug.org Lisa Boyd Outreach / Public Relations Triangle Linux Group (TriLUG) _______________________________________________ Trilug-announce mailing list http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug-announce --__--__-- Message: 18 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 15:18:45 -0500 From: "Lisa C. Boyd" To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] [Trilug-announce] TriLUG Meeting Changes - Mark Turner from Lulu to give LDAP talk! Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org Well duh - I also forgot to mention that we are now taking nominations for the Steering Committee seat that Chris Hedemark is leaving. If you would like to nominate someone, please email us at steering at trilug dot org. Nominations will be closed 10 days before the next meeting (closing date February 3rd). Voting will take place at the next meeting on February 13th. Hope to see you tonight! Lisa Boyd Outreach / Public Relations Triangle Linux Group (TriLUG) --__--__-- Message: 19 From: Tanner Lovelace To: trilug@trilug.org Date: 09 Jan 2003 15:25:57 -0500 Subject: [TriLUG] Nominate Roy Vestal Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org --=-mZ26HEO8037OZR1C32fV Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 15:18, Lisa C. Boyd wrote: >> Well duh - I also forgot to mention that we are now taking nominations=20 >> for the Steering Committee seat that Chris Hedemark is leaving. If you=20 >> would like to nominate someone, please email us at steering at trilug=20 >> dot org. Nominations will be closed 10 days before the next meeting=20 >> (closing date February 3rd). Voting will take place at the next meeting=20 >> on February 13th. I'd like to nominate Roy Vestal. Roy is the person that gets us the nice room at RTI (and, if it weren't for him, we wouldn't have a=20 room this month). He also sets up the network connections so we can have network connectivity at the meetings. I think he would make a great addition to the steering committee. Tanner Lovelace (speaking solely as myself and not as a member of the SC) --=20 Tanner Lovelace | lovelace(at)wayfarer.org | http://wtl.wayfarer.org/ --*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*-- GPG Fingerprint =3D A66C 8660 924F 5F8C 71DA BDD0 CE09 4F8E DE76 39D4 GPG Key can be found at http://wtl.wayfarer.org/lovelace.gpg.asc --*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*-- "Junk food is considered part of the vegetable food group, because it=20 comes from a plant. A big chemical plant. In New Jersey." - Kludge Dorsey --=-mZ26HEO8037OZR1C32fV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA+HdrVzglPjt52OdQRAkD3AJ9SUX4C5ZjDgdvQN7Kkextnh4C7MgCg0tKS qVSE+bc1tLsEfP8CoYOJ4ck= =IM1Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-mZ26HEO8037OZR1C32fV-- --__--__-- Message: 20 Subject: Re: [TriLUG] [Trilug-announce] TriLUG Meeting Changes - Mark Turner from Lulu to give LDAP talk! From: Michael Thompson To: trilug@trilug.org Date: 09 Jan 2003 15:30:26 -0500 Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org I hope that the embedded Linux discussion will be re-scheduled, but I am really looking forward to the LDAP presentation tonight! --mwt On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 14:59, Lisa C. Boyd wrote: >> Due to unfortunate circumstances, our speaker for tonight (Rob) was >> unable to make it. His flight was canceled and he could not get another >> flight in time for the meeting. >> >> Mark Turner from Lulu has agreed to speak on LDAP tonight. Mark has been >> working with LDAP for three years now, having deployed it in small >> offices as well as global environments. His diabolical plan is to make >> the world LDAP enabled. Since we haven't given Mark much notice, this >> will be an introductory talk showing how to get LDAP up and running. >> >> The Steering Committee will also be giving an official State of the LUG >> speech. We'll have the usual have a job/need a job time, free pizza and >> plenty of soft drinks. >> >> We are still going to meet in the Cox building at RTI [1 for >> directions]. We're sorry for all the last minute changes this month, but >> want to give a huge thanks to Mark for agreeing to speak tonight :) >> >> [1] http://www.trilug.org >> >> Lisa Boyd >> Outreach / Public Relations >> Triangle Linux Group (TriLUG) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trilug-announce mailing list >> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug-announce >> _______________________________________________ >> TriLUG mailing list >> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug >> TriLUG Organizational FAQ: >> http://www.trilug.org/~lovelace/faq/TriLUG-faq.html >> --__--__-- Message: 21 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:30:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Nominate Roy Vestal From: "Tarus Balog" To: <3E1DD925.8030403@yahoo.hotmail2.org> <1042143959.467.148.camel@yahoo.hotmail2.org> Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: trilug-admin@trilug.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Tanner Lovelace said: >> I'd like to nominate Roy Vestal. Roy is the person that gets us the >> nice room at RTI (and, if it weren't for him, we wouldn't have a >> room this month). He also sets up the network connections so we >> can have network connectivity at the meetings. I think he would make a >> great addition to the steering committee. I'll second the nomination if he promises to vote for himself this time. I voted for him last time and found out he had voted for Lisa! (not that there's anything wrong with that) -T -- Tarus Balog Consultant Sortova Consulting Group, http://www.obfuscated.moc +1-XXX-XXX-XXXX tarus@yahoo.hotmail2.org> To: trilug@trilug.org Date: 09 Jan 2003 14:16:02 -0500 Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org --=-/luoWK9/FT7FRkFsRoCp Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 14:04, Tarus Balog wrote: >> I hope that the embedded Linux discussion will be re-scheduled, Yes, we are going to do our best to reschedule Rob Wehlri for a future meeting. --Jeremy --__--__-- Message: 23 From: Mike M To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] ssh questions Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 03:40:23 -0500 Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org On Thursday 09 January 2003 14:51, Tanner Lovelace wrote: >> On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 02:41, Mike M wrote: > >>> > I removed the contents of ~/.ssh2 in my client account and found that >>> > could login in to a remote machine with just the account password. >>> > >>> > Is this password authentication instead of public key authentication? Do >>> > I change /etc/ssh2/sshd2_config on the ssh2 server to force public key >>> > authentication only? > >> >> Yes, it's password authentication. You can disallow that in the >> server config (at least on OpenSSH, don't know about "official" ssh). >> The OpenSSH config file is /etc/ssh/sshd_config. Thanks. I'll try that next. >> > >>> > I tried to bring my SSH2 generated private key (id_dsa_1024_a) to an >>> > OpenSSH client. I put the contents into ~/.ssh/id_dsa. When I tried to >>> > login to a remote account I was repeatedly prompted for the passphrase >>> > for key in ~/.ssh/id_dsa. Am I trying to do a bogus operation? > >> >> id_dsa is normally your private key. The corresponding public key >> is id_dsa.pub and that's what I generally put on the remote server, >> while id_dsa stays on the client. It won't work, afaik, without >> both. Aha. I've got the public key on the remote machine stored in the SSH2 method. I should also store the public key on the remote machine in the OpenSSH way as you mention above. I'll try that also. -- Mike M. --__--__-- Message: 24 From: Mike M To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] First State government to use Open Source Technology Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 03:44:51 -0500 Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org On Thursday 09 January 2003 14:41, Jeremy Portzer wrote: >> I work for the state and use mysql, have been for several years now. :-) You should get a raise. Good work. Tell your boss this taxpayer thinks you're doing a great job. You want me to go with you to your next performance review? Governement should justify the use of proprietary software now that open source alternatives are available. Mr. Easley is on record as saying the state must get more efficient in its use of funds. -- Mike M. --__--__-- Message: 25 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:53:50 -0500 (EST) From: Lisa Lorenzin To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] red hat sendmail rpms with tls support? Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org >> thanks, everyone, for your help and patience through my bad temper. >> red hat gains back some karma points for it not being as bad as >> i initially thought. thanks for sharing the process with us! i go through the same frustration with rpm dependencies occasionally, so it's reassuring to know i'm not the only one. (altho i wouldn't wish it on anyone else, either.) it's also nice to know what worked for you. hopefully it'll save the rest of us from jumping through the same hoops next time we have to do something similar. lisa -- lisa lorenzin | lorenzin@yahoo.hotmail2.org> Organization: Intrah To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] [Trilug-announce] TriLUG Meeting Changes - Mark Turner from Lulu to give LDAP talk! Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org Damnit! This would be the one meeting (about ldap) that i would hope to make...alas I cannot. I hope that some one is good enough to take careful notes and post them afterwards....PLEASE! JoJO Lisa C. Boyd wrote: >> Due to unfortunate circumstances, our speaker for tonight (Rob) was >> unable to make it. His flight was canceled and he could not get another >> flight in time for the meeting. >> >> Mark Turner from Lulu has agreed to speak on LDAP tonight. Mark has >> been working with LDAP for three years now, having deployed it in >> small offices as well as global environments. His diabolical plan is >> to make the world LDAP enabled. Since we haven't given Mark much >> notice, this will be an introductory talk showing how to get LDAP up >> and running. >> >> The Steering Committee will also be giving an official State of the >> LUG speech. We'll have the usual have a job/need a job time, free >> pizza and plenty of soft drinks. >> >> We are still going to meet in the Cox building at RTI [1 for >> directions]. We're sorry for all the last minute changes this month, >> but want to give a huge thanks to Mark for agreeing to speak tonight :) >> >> [1] http://www.trilug.org >> >> Lisa Boyd >> Outreach / Public Relations >> Triangle Linux Group (TriLUG) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trilug-announce mailing list >> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug-announce >> _______________________________________________ >> TriLUG mailing list >> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug >> TriLUG Organizational FAQ: >> http://www.trilug.org/~lovelace/faq/TriLUG-faq.html -- Completely Made up Signature, http://www.crazy.moc +1-XXX-XXX-XXXX noEmailAtAll@mailinator.com To: trilug@trilug.org Date: 09 Jan 2003 15:28:38 -0500 Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 15:30, Michael Thompson wrote: >> Damnit! This would be the one meeting (about ldap) that i would hope >> to make...alas I cannot. I hope that some one is good enough to take >> careful notes and post them afterwards....PLEASE! >> >> JoJO >> >> Lisa C. Boyd wrote: >> > >>>> Due to unfortunate circumstances, our speaker for tonight (Rob) was >>>> unable to make it. His flight was canceled and he could not get another >>>> flight in time for the meeting. >>>> >>>> Mark Turner from Lulu has agreed to speak on LDAP tonight. Mark has >>>> been working with LDAP for three years now, having deployed it in >>>> small offices as well as global environments. His diabolical plan is >>>> to make the world LDAP enabled. Since we haven't given Mark much >>>> notice, this will be an introductory talk showing how to get LDAP up >>>> and running. >>>> >>>> The Steering Committee will also be giving an official State of the >>>> LUG speech. We'll have the usual have a job/need a job time, free >>>> pizza and plenty of soft drinks. >>>> >>>> We are still going to meet in the Cox building at RTI [1 for >>>> directions]. We're sorry for all the last minute changes this month, >>>> but want to give a huge thanks to Mark for agreeing to speak tonight :) >>>> >>>> [1] http://www.trilug.org >>>> >>>> Lisa Boyd >>>> Outreach / Public Relations >>>> Triangle Linux Group (TriLUG) >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Trilug-announce mailing list >>>> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug-announce >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TriLUG mailing list >>>> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug >>>> TriLUG Organizational FAQ: >>>> http://www.trilug.org/~lovelace/faq/TriLUG-faq.html > >> >> >> -- Completely Made up Signature, http://www.crazy.moc +1-XXX-XXX-XXXX noEmailAtAll@mailinator.com To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] no rc.local file in SUSE8.0 Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org In the old, old days -- and for some versions of Unix, and even some Linux distributions, even now -- things that you wanted to run when your machine booted were put into /etc/rc.boot. The /etc/rc.boot script would end by invoking /etc/rc.local. New things that you added to the machine and wanted to run at boot time would get started from /etc/rc.local. Starting with AT&T System V (perhaps even III), the contents of /etc/rc.boot and /etc/rc.local were split into a collection of individual scripts, which live in /etc/init.d. These are then linked into /etc/rc2.d or /etc/rc3.d or /etc/rc5.d, with the digits corresponding to different run levels: 2 for multiuser, 3 for multiuser plus file server, 5 for multiuser plus run the X server (graphics window). The scripts are named "S99", with the 99 being replaced by a two or three digit number. The scripts are executed in the order that "echo *" shows them in the /etc/rcn.d directory, so the decimal digits allow you to specify the order in which the scripts run. Now, I believe SuSE does things this way, but they don't have to. What you'll want to do is find one of the simplest startup scripts in /etc/init.d, copy that to an appropriate name for what you're installing, and then change it to invoke the startup procedure that you were instructed to add to /etc/rc.local. Finally, link it into the rc3.d and rc5.d directories. It's possible that the program you're dealing with already has an appropriate startup script. Good luck, - Stephen P. Schaefer Mike Kelley wrote: >> I'm new to Linux so this might be a silly question but one of the things >> I'm trying to install says to place an entry in the rc.local file but I >> don't seem to have an rc.local file. Anyone know what I should be >> editing instead? >> >> Mike --__--__-- Message: 29 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 16:22:54 -0500 From: Janyne Kizer Organization: NC State University, College of Agriculture & Life Sciences To: Triangle Linux Users Group Subject: [TriLUG] Scripting question Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org I am trying to get a list of home directories for regular users in a script. The problem that I am running into is we have some cases where users with similar IDs are on the system. For example, sa, saclark and sange or edware and dware. On our test system we have emma and emma60. Anyway, I am trying to do something similar to this: for userid in `cat /etc/passwd | awk -F":" {'print $1'} | grep -xv "^the-stuff-we-don't-want" homedir=`grep $userid /etc/passwd | awk -F":" {'print $6'}` and of course it is returning two homedirs for emma (/home/emma and /home/emma60). How can I get it to do an exact match? From the command line this works: grep '\' /etc/passwd but I must be doing something wrong with the escaping when I put it into a script. Any suggestions would be appreciated! -- Janyne Kizer Systems Programmer Administrator NC State University, College of Agriculture & Life Sciences Extension Information Technology --__--__-- Message: 30 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 16:25:38 -0500 From: Janyne Kizer Organization: NC State University, College of Agriculture & Life Sciences To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] First State government to use Open Source Technology Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: >> >> Roy Vestal wrote: > >>> > Rhode Island is using a Linux based MySQL DB for some of the gov't work. >>> > >>> > Article from EWeek >>> > >>> > http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,808852,00.asp > >> >> ah, no, new hampshire has been doing it for a while now.. but it's >> good news nevertheless. Well, so have some agencies here in NC. It's just not organized on the state level (at least not to the best of my knowledge). -- Janyne Kizer Systems Programmer Administrator NC State University, College of Agriculture & Life Sciences Extension Information Technology --__--__-- Message: 31 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 16:32:43 -0500 From: Janyne Kizer Organization: NC State University, College of Agriculture & Life Sciences To: trilug@yahoo.hotmail2.org>" /etc/passwd | awk -F":" {'print $6'}` Thanks for listening! Janyne Kizer wrote: >> >> I am trying to get a list of home directories for regular users in a >> script. The problem that I am running into is we have some cases where >> users with similar IDs are on the system. For example, sa, saclark and >> sange or edware and dware. On our test system we have emma and emma60. >> Anyway, I am trying to do something similar to this: >> >> for userid in `cat /etc/passwd | awk -F":" {'print $1'} | grep -xv >> "^the-stuff-we-don't-want" >> homedir=`grep $userid /etc/passwd | awk -F":" {'print $6'}` >> >> and of course it is returning two homedirs for emma (/home/emma and >> /home/emma60). How can I get it to do an exact match? From the command >> line this works: >> >> grep '\' /etc/passwd >> >> but I must be doing something wrong with the escaping when I put it into >> a script. >> >> Any suggestions would be appreciated! >> -- >> >> Janyne Kizer >> Systems Programmer Administrator >> NC State University, College of Agriculture & Life Sciences >> Extension Information Technology >> _______________________________________________ >> TriLUG mailing list >> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug >> TriLUG Organizational FAQ: >> http://www.trilug.org/~lovelace/faq/TriLUG-faq.html -- Janyne Kizer Systems Programmer Administrator NC State University, College of Agriculture & Life Sciences Extension Information Technology --__--__-- Message: 32 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 16:37:38 -0500 From: "Stephen P. Schaefer" To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Scripting question Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org Your script is a bit different than what you say you want. If I want a list of users with their home directories, I might do awk -F":" '{ print $1,$6 }' /etc/passwd If I wanted the home directory for a specific user, e.g., emma, I might do userid="emma" awk -F":" "/^$userid/ { print \$6 }" /etc/passwd If you're trying to do something else, let us know. - Stephen Janyne Kizer wrote: >> I am trying to get a list of home directories for regular users in a >> script. The problem that I am running into is we have some cases where >> users with similar IDs are on the system. For example, sa, saclark and >> sange or edware and dware. On our test system we have emma and emma60. >> Anyway, I am trying to do something similar to this: >> >> for userid in `cat /etc/passwd | awk -F":" {'print $1'} | grep -xv >> "^the-stuff-we-don't-want" >> homedir=`grep $userid /etc/passwd | awk -F":" {'print $6'}` >> >> and of course it is returning two homedirs for emma (/home/emma and >> /home/emma60). How can I get it to do an exact match? From the command >> line this works: >> >> grep '\' /etc/passwd >> >> but I must be doing something wrong with the escaping when I put it into >> a script. >> >> Any suggestions would be appreciated! --__--__-- Message: 33 Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Scripting question From: Jeremy Portzer To: trilug@trilug.org Date: 09 Jan 2003 16:36:55 -0500 Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 16:22, Janyne Kizer wrote: >> I am trying to get a list of home directories for regular users in a >> script. The problem that I am running into is we have some cases where >> users with similar IDs are on the system. For example, sa, saclark and >> sange or edware and dware. On our test system we have emma and emma60. >> Anyway, I am trying to do something similar to this: >> >> for userid in `cat /etc/passwd | awk -F":" {'print $1'} | grep -xv >> "^the-stuff-we-don't-want" >> homedir=`grep $userid /etc/passwd | awk -F":" {'print $6'}` >> >> and of course it is returning two homedirs for emma (/home/emma and >> /home/emma60). How can I get it to do an exact match? From the command >> line this works: >> >> grep '\' /etc/passwd >> >> but I must be doing something wrong with the escaping when I put it into >> a script. Why are you grepping for "" from the command line... what are the angle brackets for? Since the username is always at the start of the line, and has a colon after it, you can use that pattern to match a specific username, ie: homedir=`grep ^${userid}: /etc/passwd | awk -F":" {'print $6'}` What format is "the-stuff-we-dont-want" in? A list of usernames? The following pipeline should list the homedirectories without a loop at all: egrep -v "^(root|adm|daemon|other|bad|users):" /etc/passwd | awk -F: '{print $6}' Hope this helps, Jeremy --__--__-- Message: 34 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:40:51 -0500 (EST) From: Greg Cox To: Triangle Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Scripting question Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org >> How can I get it to do an exact match? From the command >> line this works: >> >> grep '\' /etc/passwd Try grep "\b$userid\b" /etc/passwd in the loop. --__--__-- Message: 35 Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Scripting question From: Tanner Lovelace To: trilug@trilug.org Date: 09 Jan 2003 16:44:16 -0500 Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org --=-nJu3PjLw+kZxW/C3gvqQ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 16:37, Stephen P. Schaefer wrote: >> userid=3D"emma" >> awk -F":" "/^$userid/ { print \$6 }" /etc/passwd This will still give you all users that begin with emma. She said: >> and of course it is returning two homedirs for emma (/home/emma and >> /home/emma60). How can I get it to do an exact match? I think you would need to add a : after userid like this: awk -F":" "/^$userid:/ { print \$6 }" /etc/passwd That would make sure it was an exact match. (If anyone sees anything wrong with that, please speak up. I'm by no means an awk expert. :) Cheers, Tanner --=20 Tanner Lovelace | lovelace(at)wayfarer.org | http://wtl.wayfarer.org/ --*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*-- GPG Fingerprint =3D A66C 8660 924F 5F8C 71DA BDD0 CE09 4F8E DE76 39D4 GPG Key can be found at http://wtl.wayfarer.org/lovelace.gpg.asc --*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*-- "Junk food is considered part of the vegetable food group, because it=20 comes from a plant. A big chemical plant. In New Jersey." - Kludge Dorsey --=-nJu3PjLw+kZxW/C3gvqQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA+He0wzglPjt52OdQRAiZrAJ9pTrIrGhGSQBXt2C+qfM9ZzljU5QCfQQB+ plaxOlo3rrThTvcRAiKXz0Q= =4Mmf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-nJu3PjLw+kZxW/C3gvqQ-- --__--__-- Message: 36 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 16:46:08 -0500 From: "Stephen P. Schaefer" To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Scripting question Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org Ahh, so you want it in a variable. I suggest this might be more reliable than your proposed solution: homedir=`awk -F":" "/^${userid}:/ { print \\$6 }" /etc/passwd` I'm worried that your \<$userid\> might match something in the GECOS field for the wrong account. The regular expression I propose will only match at the beginning of the password line, and will match the entire userid in passwd (since : is an illegal character in a userid). - Stephen Janyne Kizer wrote: >> Now I wish that I had posted sooner. I think that I have it working >> now. Isn't that always the case? Right after I ask for help I have an >> "ah ha!" moment... >> >> homedir=`grep "\<$userid\>" /etc/passwd | awk -F":" {'print $6'}` >> >> Thanks for listening! >> >> Janyne Kizer wrote: >> > >>>>I am trying to get a list of home directories for regular users in a >>>>script. The problem that I am running into is we have some cases where >>>>users with similar IDs are on the system. For example, sa, saclark and >>>>sange or edware and dware. On our test system we have emma and emma60. >>>>Anyway, I am trying to do something similar to this: >>>> >>>>for userid in `cat /etc/passwd | awk -F":" {'print $1'} | grep -xv >>>>"^the-stuff-we-don't-want" >>>>homedir=`grep $userid /etc/passwd | awk -F":" {'print $6'}` >>>> >>>>and of course it is returning two homedirs for emma (/home/emma and >>>>/home/emma60). How can I get it to do an exact match? From the command >>>>line this works: >>>> >>>>grep '\' /etc/passwd >>>> >>>>but I must be doing something wrong with the escaping when I put it into >>>>a script. >>>> >>>>Any suggestions would be appreciated! >>>>-- >>>> >>>>Janyne Kizer >>>>Systems Programmer Administrator >>>>NC State University, College of Agriculture & Life Sciences >>>>Extension Information Technology >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>TriLUG mailing list >>>> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug >>>>TriLUG Organizational FAQ: >>>> http://www.trilug.org/~lovelace/faq/TriLUG-faq.html > >> >> --__--__-- Message: 37 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 16:48:47 -0500 From: "Stephen P. Schaefer" To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Scripting question Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org Ack, I forgot the ":" character, to ensure that the full userid gets matched. Since you want it in a variable, I suggest this might be more reliable than your proposed solution: homedir=`awk -F":" "/^${userid}:/ { print \\$6 }" /etc/passwd` I'm worried that your \<$userid\> might match something in the GECOS field for the wrong account. The regular expression I propose will only match at the beginning of the password line, and will match the entire userid in passwd (since : is an illegal character in a userid). - Stephen Janyne Kizer wrote: >> Now I wish that I had posted sooner. I think that I have it working >> now. Isn't that always the case? Right after I ask for help I have an >> "ah ha!" moment... >> >> homedir=`grep "\<$userid\>" /etc/passwd | awk -F":" {'print $6'}` >> >> Thanks for listening! >> >> Janyne Kizer wrote: >> > >>>>I am trying to get a list of home directories for regular users in a >>>>script. The problem that I am running into is we have some cases where >>>>users with similar IDs are on the system. For example, sa, saclark and >>>>sange or edware and dware. On our test system we have emma and emma60. >>>>Anyway, I am trying to do something similar to this: >>>> >>>>for userid in `cat /etc/passwd | awk -F":" {'print $1'} | grep -xv >>>>"^the-stuff-we-don't-want" >>>>homedir=`grep $userid /etc/passwd | awk -F":" {'print $6'}` >>>> >>>>and of course it is returning two homedirs for emma (/home/emma and >>>>/home/emma60). How can I get it to do an exact match? From the command >>>>line this works: >>>> >>>>grep '\' /etc/passwd >>>> >>>>but I must be doing something wrong with the escaping when I put it into >>>>a script. >>>> >>>>Any suggestions would be appreciated! >>>>-- >>>> >>>>Janyne Kizer >>>>Systems Programmer Administrator >>>>NC State University, College of Agriculture & Life Sciences >>>>Extension Information Technology >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>TriLUG mailing list >>>> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug >>>>TriLUG Organizational FAQ: >>>> http://www.trilug.org/~lovelace/faq/TriLUG-faq.html > >> >> --__--__-- Message: 38 Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Scripting question - better answer From: Jeremy Portzer To: trilug@trilug.org Date: 09 Jan 2003 16:45:18 -0500 Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 16:36, Jeremy Portzer wrote: >> >> What format is "the-stuff-we-dont-want" in? A list of usernames? The >> following pipeline should list the homedirectories without a loop at >> all: >> >> egrep -v "^(root|adm|daemon|other|bad|users):" /etc/passwd | >> awk -F: '{print $6}' Or here's an even simpler way of doing this. If all regular users have user ID's greater than 500, the following awk line will print out the regular users' home directories: awk -F: '{if ($3 > 500) print $6}' /etc/passwd Hope this helps, Jeremy --__--__-- Message: 39 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 16:51:16 -0500 From: "Lisa C. Boyd" To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] [Trilug-announce] TriLUG Meeting Changes - Mark Turner from Lulu to give LDAP talk! Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org We didn't give Mark much notice - so I don't know what slides he'll have prepared :) We'll do our best to get *something* to the group tomorrow. JoJo Almario wrote: >> Or better yet. Lisa Do you know how I can get in contact with Mark per >> chance to have him give a similar talk to my group? As far as having Mark talk to your group, Mark is an active member of TriLUG. I'll ask him tonight if he's seen your post (he's probably still polishing up his talk right now though) and have him contact you to discuss the idea further. Lisa B. --__--__-- Message: 40 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 12:18:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [TriLUG] poppassd and ldap From: Chris Hedemark To: trilug@trilug.org Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 03:26 PM, Ben Simpson wrote: >> Jan 7 15:23:02 thor poppassd[5173]: connect from silextech.com >> Jan 7 15:23:02 thor poppassd[5173]: pam_ldap: error trying to bind as >> user "uid=user,ou=People,o=silex technologies;c=us" (Invalid >> credentials) >> Jan 7 15:23:02 thor poppassd[5173]: pam_ldap: ldap_modify_s >> Insufficient access >> Jan 7 15:23:02 thor poppassd[5173]: PAM error: LDAP password >> information update failed: Insufficient access >> >> >> I am trying to get imp to use poppassd to change user's passwords over >> the web. >> I am getting the above in the system logs. It doesn't look like it is >> working but I can change passwords on the webpage. I don't know if it >> is "actually" working or not I suspect an issue with your OpenLDAP ACL's. Might want to look into that. Chris Hedemark .. Hillsborough, NC .. http://yonderway.com Homeland Security begins at home; support your Second Amendment. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (Darwin) iD4DBQE+HF1ZYPuF4Zq9lvYRAv5HAKDx0fWsBZin2f/oVdY3nDlsRqOWYQCXVvIv henhAoYshwVYWWNYbwraTg== =xrUT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --__--__-- Message: 41 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 12:23:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [TriLUG] RH8 up2date Crashing From: Chris Hedemark To: trilug@trilug.org Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 05:22 PM, Thomas C. Meggs wrote: >> I say, Apt-Rpm! ;) +1 I've used it on a bunch of Red Hat boxes (and even a Mandrake or three) and it works awesome. I suspect you'll never see it bundled with RHL unless they rework their revenue stream as apt-rpm is a threat to up2date. I've also tried Ximian Red Carpet and for the time being recommend AVOIDING Ximian's tool as they repackage their own RPM's that can really interfere with distro upgrades. Going from RHL 7.2 to 7.3 with Red Carpet previously installed was... interesting (and I don't say that in a good way). Chris Hedemark .. Hillsborough, NC .. http://yonderway.com Homeland Security begins at home; support your Second Amendment. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQE+HF5/YPuF4Zq9lvYRAj0LAKCKc/G1Rex+Tf9gcYli3fqA2C4cWQCfcOTn P1zF3LiplA9tvgHdMEZrqnQ= =Udyu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --__--__-- Message: 42 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 17:00:32 -0500 From: Janyne Kizer Organization: NC State University, College of Agriculture & Life Sciences To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Scripting question Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org Thanks everyone! :-) "Stephen P. Schaefer" wrote: >> >> Ack, I forgot the ":" character, to ensure that the full userid gets >> matched. Since you want it in a variable, I suggest this might be more >> reliable than your proposed solution: >> >> homedir=`awk -F":" "/^${userid}:/ { print \\$6 }" /etc/passwd` >> >> I'm worried that your \<$userid\> might match something in the GECOS >> field for the wrong account. The regular expression I propose will only >> match at the beginning of the password line, and will match the entire >> userid in passwd (since : is an illegal character in a userid). >> >> - Stephen >> >> Janyne Kizer wrote: > >>> > Now I wish that I had posted sooner. I think that I have it working >>> > now. Isn't that always the case? Right after I ask for help I have an >>> > "ah ha!" moment... >>> > >>> > homedir=`grep "\<$userid\>" /etc/passwd | awk -F":" {'print $6'}` >>> > >>> > Thanks for listening! >>> > >>> > Janyne Kizer wrote: >>> > >> >>>> >>I am trying to get a list of home directories for regular users in a >>>> >>script. The problem that I am running into is we have some cases where >>>> >>users with similar IDs are on the system. For example, sa, saclark and >>>> >>sange or edware and dware. On our test system we have emma and emma60. >>>> >>Anyway, I am trying to do something similar to this: >>>> >> >>>> >>for userid in `cat /etc/passwd | awk -F":" {'print $1'} | grep -xv >>>> >>"^the-stuff-we-don't-want" >>>> >>homedir=`grep $userid /etc/passwd | awk -F":" {'print $6'}` >>>> >> >>>> >>and of course it is returning two homedirs for emma (/home/emma and >>>> >>/home/emma60). How can I get it to do an exact match? From the command >>>> >>line this works: >>>> >> >>>> >>grep '\' /etc/passwd >>>> >> >>>> >>but I must be doing something wrong with the escaping when I put it into >>>> >>a script. >>>> >> >>>> >>Any suggestions would be appreciated! >>>> >>-- >>>> >> >>>> >>Janyne Kizer >>>> >>Systems Programmer Administrator >>>> >>NC State University, College of Agriculture & Life Sciences >>>> >>Extension Information Technology >>>> >>_______________________________________________ >>>> >>TriLUG mailing list >>>> >> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug >>>> >>TriLUG Organizational FAQ: >>>> >> http://www.trilug.org/~lovelace/faq/TriLUG-faq.html >> >>> > >>> > > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TriLUG mailing list >> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug >> TriLUG Organizational FAQ: >> http://www.trilug.org/~lovelace/faq/TriLUG-faq.html -- Janyne Kizer Systems Programmer Administrator NC State University, College of Agriculture & Life Sciences Extension Information Technology --__--__-- Message: 43 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 19:58:01 -0500 From: Roy Vestal To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] AGP card suggestion please Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org Any NVidia GeForce card. Mine works great! Greg Kuhn wrote: >>I need suggestions for an AGP video card. My needs are as follows: >>- compatible with w2k/xp and RedHat >>- enough memory to allow game playing on winblows, >> need at least 32M >>- preferably easy to setup on my existing RH7.3 >> installation >>- cost, can't afford a super expensive card right >> now >> >>Thanks, Greg >>_______________________________________________ >>TriLUG mailing list >> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug >>TriLUG Organizational FAQ: >> http://www.trilug.org/~lovelace/faq/TriLUG-faq.html >> >> >> --__--__-- Message: 44 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:05:01 -0500 From: Roy Vestal To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Boot Loaders and the like Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org I must disagree. I do it simply, fdisk /mbr to reset the mbr back to Windows. If you are running NT4 or 2000, you can use computer management to remove the linux partitions (it will be seen as a non-dos/windows partition). If not, reboot with the boot disk, run fdisk and delete the non-dos partitions. BE VERY CAREFUL. HTH Jim Ray wrote: >>DOS pukes hard on certain partitions. I had better luck doing it from >>Linux and not even screwing with fdisk /mbr. >> >>Ain't nothing like a clean, fresh partition. >> >> >> > >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Jeremy Portzer [mailto:jeremyp@apple.netscape2.comscape2.com] >>>>Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 4:46 PM >>>>To: trilug@trilug.org >>>>Subject: RE: [TriLUG] Boot Loaders and the like >>>> >>>>On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 07:24, Jim Ray wrote: >>>> >>>> >> >>>>>>You'll need to begin the RH8 installation again and remove >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>partitions >> >> > >>>>>>with fdisk. That step will wipe your hard drive and let you load >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>the OS >> >> > >>>>>>of your choice. >>>>>> >>>>>>In the DOS world, there's also the fdisk /mbr >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>It should be clarified that fdisk /mbr only removes (overwrites) the >>>>bootloader of the primary hard drive; it doesn't change any of the >>>>partitions, and therefore doesn't uninstall anything (except the >>>>bootloader >>>> >>>> > >>_______________________________________________ >>TriLUG mailing list >> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug >>TriLUG Organizational FAQ: >> http://www.trilug.org/~lovelace/faq/TriLUG-faq.html >> >> >> --__--__-- Message: 45 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:20:04 -0500 From: Roy Vestal To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Donations Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org >> Poor Roy has been struggling with our portable firewall for a long >> time now and may have some ideas on a suitable replacement. This is >> the machine that gives us wired & wireless 'net access at TriLUG >> meetings, installfests and other events. Hadn't seen you in a while. The firewall is fine now. It took 15 minutes to setup tonight. Mainly cables and I had to go get a power strip. Wireless and all! Woohoo! >> >> Cash donations are always appreciated & useful. The more cash we have >> in the bank, the more cool & useful stuff we do with it. Cash is always good! --__--__-- Message: 46 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:24:29 -0500 From: Roy Vestal To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Donations Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org That's up to the LUG. I have the firewall up and running and I'm keeping it up to date with RHL up2date. It's working fine. Tonight it took 15 min to setup. Theoretically, a linksys would work fine. It would need to be wirless w/4 or 8 ports. Configuring it wouldn't be difficult. Take me about 5 min. I personally like having the portable. I mean it's Linux! It's a way we can show off the abilities of Linux and old hardware. Again, this is up to the LUG. Jeremy Portzer wrote: >>On Sun, 2003-01-05 at 23:12, Tanner Lovelace wrote: >> >> > >>>>On Sun, 2003-01-05 at 22:37, Chris Hedemark wrote: >>>> >>>> > >> >> >> > >>>>>>Poor Roy has been struggling with our portable firewall for a long time >>>>>>now and may have some ideas on a suitable replacement. This is the >>>>>>machine that gives us wired & wireless 'net access at TriLUG meetings, >>>>>>installfests and other events. >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>Roy, correct me if I'm wrong, but one of those Linksys or Netgear >>>>cable/dsl routers with a four port switch would probably do the >>>>same thing as the portable firewall and you could probably just >>>>plug it in and go. Actually, I believe they even have that with >>>>included wireless which would be even better because then we'd >>>>just need the one box to do everything. :-) >>>> >>>> > >> >>Yeah, the ones with an included wireless access point are pretty cool, >>and we've been having a lot of trouble with the airport recently. I >>picked up the Linksys BEFW11S4 at CompUSA for $129.99 this past weekend >>(I finally got broadband Internet at home); I'd be willing to loan this >>for each meeting except I often don't get to meetings early since I >>bring the pizza. >> >>--Jeremy >> >>_______________________________________________ >>TriLUG mailing list >> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug >>TriLUG Organizational FAQ: >> http://www.trilug.org/~lovelace/faq/TriLUG-faq.html >> >> >> --__--__-- Message: 47 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:35:56 -0500 From: Roy Vestal To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Donations Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org +1 Thomas C. Meggs wrote: >> Tanner Lovelace wrote: >> > >>>> Roy, correct me if I'm wrong, but one of those Linksys or Netgear >>>> cable/dsl routers with a four port switch would probably do the >>>> same thing as the portable firewall and you could probably just >>>> plug it in and go. Actually, I believe they even have that with >>>> included wireless which would be even better because then we'd just >>>> need the one box to do everything. :-) > >> >> >> The only thing that occurs to me about that is just the demonstration >> factor. If the NAT box you bring around to meetings and install fests >> actually runs Linux, it shows people the extent of what one can do >> with a free UNIX. From this perspective, it may be advantageous to >> have the portable firewall be an actual computer, which could also be >> a demo computer. One thing that comes to mind immediatly is to get one >> of the earlier models of the Shuttle XPC. They have a PCI slot and are >> nicely small and luggable. I imagine you could get the >> motherboard/case + PCI 802.11b card for under $200, and finding a >> processor and disk from some of the PCs that are 'kicking around' >> without rack mount cases probably wouldn't be that hard as well. >> >> At any rate, it's just a thought. Why buy a Netgear or Linksys >> 'router' when you can do it with Linux and have a machine ready to >> demo with as well? >> >> Regards, >> Tom >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TriLUG mailing list >> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug >> TriLUG Organizational FAQ: >> http://www.trilug.org/~lovelace/faq/TriLUG-faq.html >> --__--__-- Message: 48 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 21:09:28 -0500 Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Nominate Roy Vestal From: Chris Hedemark To: trilug@trilug.org Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 03:25 PM, Tanner Lovelace wrote: >> I'd like to nominate Roy Vestal. Roy is the person that gets us the >> nice room at RTI (and, if it weren't for him, we wouldn't have a >> room this month). He also sets up the network connections so we >> can have network connectivity at the meetings. I think he would make >> a great addition to the steering committee. +1 Roy is one of our many unsung heroes. OK so my +1 doesn't count since I became a Pennsylvania resident at 4:30 this afternoon and as such don't qualify for TriLUG membership anymore. I had planned on being at the meeting but was called in for an on-site final interview with a company in Philadelphia and literally jumped in the car and left. Regardless of how the interview goes, I now live in PA. Will continue hanging out on the list as long as is practical. Chris Hedemark .. Prospect Park, PA .. http://yonderway.com Homeland Security begins at home; support your Second Amendment. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQE+HiteYPuF4Zq9lvYRAoawAKC6cx623mV1p57T4+2IF3l7bZfS4QCgwExV Fn/G9ATliF/uT91dMxE9KCg= =nbIc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --__--__-- Message: 49 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 22:20:39 -0500 From: "Lisa C. Boyd" To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: [TriLUG] Huge thanks to Mark! Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org Thanks Mark for the great talk on LDAP! You did great for having such short notice. They (the other SC members) had threatened to have me give a talk on something - so you rescued everybody! Thanks again for being such a good sport and filling in at the last minute! Lisa B. --__--__-- Message: 50 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 22:31:01 -0500 From: Mike Johnson To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Huge thanks to Mark! Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org --/hzbcv1ZPoZ/SOgH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lisa C. Boyd [lisab@trilug.org] wrote: >> Thanks Mark for the great talk on LDAP! You did great for having such=20 >> short notice. They (the other SC members) had threatened to have me give= =20 >> a talk on something - so you rescued everybody! >>=20 >> Thanks again for being such a good sport and filling in at the last minut= e! Yes! Thanks to Mark! It was a great talk, and -very- impressive for the very little prep time available. Mike --=20 "If life hands you lemons, YOU BLOW THOSE LEMONS TO BITS WITH=20 YOUR LASER CANNONS!" -- Brak GNUPG Key fingerprint =3D ACD2 2F2F C151 FB35 B3AF C821 89C4 DF9A 5DDD 95D1 GNUPG Key =3D http://www.enoch.org/mike/mike.pubkey.asc --/hzbcv1ZPoZ/SOgH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (OpenBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+Hj50icTfml3dldERAqNCAKCZ1fkltChIfFbSujDnVhoAeu+fbQCeIQdS DFsP8/ybkINVLYZAe/Sd2o8= =GEd9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/hzbcv1ZPoZ/SOgH-- --__--__-- Message: 51 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 23:01:23 -0500 From: Elremx@apple.netscape2.comscape.net To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: [TriLUG] printer drivers Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org Any ideas on how I can get a canon i550 to work in mandrake ? I haven't been able to find a driver for it. Merle Watts __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ --__--__-- Message: 52 From: "Jon Carnes" To: Cc: Subject: Re: [TriLUG] SPAM filters Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 23:25:30 -0600 Organization: AnnCons Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org Hmmm, when my wife lets me back on my Linux box, I'll look through my archives. I thought I had sent the exact procedure to TriLUG for the archives, but it may have been a private communiqu. Basically you bring up a Linux box as a Mailserver and Load SpamAssassin onto it and get it running and tested, then you setup Sendmail (or Postfix) to use the Exchange server as it's smart relay (dump out any non-local mail to the Exchange server). At this point you change your incoming MX record to point to the Linux Mail server, and you are done... well at least you're on your way. Mailscanner is a cool program and it can use the Linux client from either Norton or McAffe. In fact it can work with just about any Linux based AV program (though it works *best* with Sophos). Hope you're having fun in Co. Take care - Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [TriLUG] SPAM filters >> thanks for the help guys. i know i don't live there anymore, but you're always >> the best resource :-) >> >> i searched the trilug archives (google) for "spamassassin exchange" >> and "spamassassin outlook" to no avail. just searching "spamassassin" brought >> up about a million messages. >> >> i did do a quick google (universal) search and found this though: >> http://www.geocities.com/scottlhenderson/spamfilter.html >> >> i read through most of those million messages, and also saw something about a >> program called mailscanner that has hooks into it for spamassassin. but >> someone noted that it requires you to purchase a certain AV program. i didn't >> see a reply to this, did someone find a way to do it with norton or mcafee? >> >> thanks again, >> -rtw > >>> > And I would be that member. >>> > >>> > I'm using Postfix/SpamAssassin as our MX, marking it as spam, and then >>> > delivering to our Exchange server. The howtos in that previous thread >>> > are _really_ helpful, but it isn't all that hard to do. >>> > >>> > Of course, there's the problem that every e-mail the marketing guys get >>> > is marked as a spam. :) >>> > >>> > CJK >>> > On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 10:25, Mike Johnson wrote: >> >>>> > > ryan.wheaton@apple.netscape2.comscape2.com [ryan.wheaton@apple.netscape2.comscape2.com] wrote: >>> >>>>> > > > Hello. >>>>> > > > I've been thinking about installing some kind of company wide SPAM mail >>>>> > > > filter here at work, and was wondering if anyone had any suggesstions or >>> > great >> >>>>> > > > success stories. I remember seeing some posts about SPAMAssasin, but i >>>>> > > > couldn't find what exactly it was compatable with. Unfortunately here, >>> > we're >> >>>>> > > > using an Exhange server, and SPAMAssasin for Exchange costs $$$$. >>>>> > > > Ideally, what i'd like to do is set something up on a linux box and >>> > just >> >>>>> > > > stick it in front of the exchange server to filter all that crap out (that's >>>>> > > > a real technical statement.) >>> >>>> > > >>>> > > So, build a Linux box, install spam assasin on it, and have it be your >>>> > > MX. At least one TriLUG member has this exact setup. >>>> > > >>>> > > Mike >> >>> > -- >>> > == >>> > Chris Knowles >>> > chrisk@trilug.org >>> > == >>> > +++ Divide By Cucumber Error. Please Reinstall Universe And Reboot +++ >>> > (Hogfather) >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > TriLUG mailing list >>> > http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug >>> > TriLUG Organizational FAQ: >>> > http://www.trilug.org/~lovelace/faq/TriLUG-faq.html > >> _______________________________________________ >> TriLUG mailing list >> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug >> TriLUG Organizational FAQ: >> http://www.trilug.org/~lovelace/faq/TriLUG-faq.html --__--__-- Message: 53 Subject: RE: [TriLUG] Boot Loaders and the like Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 00:54:47 -0500 From: "Jim Ray" To: Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org It's kinda hard to get to Computer Management from Linux. Now, I have seen instances where DOS fdisk will not remove certain partitions. If it works for you, go for it. Me thinks we agree on the merits of a clean partition regardless of the means to get there. Therefore, I'd recommend folks use whatever method with which they are comfortable keeping in mind that Linux is available for the task if DOS won't give up to go. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Roy Vestal [mailto:rvestal@trilug.org] >> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:05 PM >> To: trilug@trilug.org >> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Boot Loaders and the like >>=20 >> I must disagree. I do it simply, fdisk /mbr to reset the mbr back to >> Windows. If you are running NT4 or 2000, you can use computer management >> to remove the linux partitions (it will be seen as a non-dos/windows >> partition). If not, reboot with the boot disk, run fdisk and delete the >> non-dos partitions. BE VERY CAREFUL. >>=20 >>=20 >> HTH >>=20 >>=20 >> Jim Ray wrote: >>=20 > >>> >DOS pukes hard on certain partitions. I had better luck doing it from >>> >Linux and not even screwing with fdisk /mbr. >>> > >>> >Ain't nothing like a clean, fresh partition. >>> > >>> > >>> > >> >>>> >>-----Original Message----- >>>> >>From: Jeremy Portzer [mailto:jeremyp@apple.netscape2.comscape2.com] >>>> >>Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 4:46 PM >>>> >>To: trilug@trilug.org >>>> >>Subject: RE: [TriLUG] Boot Loaders and the like >>>> >> >>>> >>On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 07:24, Jim Ray wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >>>>> >>>You'll need to begin the RH8 installation again and remove >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> >partitions >>> > >>> > >> >>>>> >>>with fdisk. That step will wipe your hard drive and let you load >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> >the OS >>> > >>> > >> >>>>> >>>of your choice. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>In the DOS world, there's also the fdisk /mbr >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >>It should be clarified that fdisk /mbr only removes (overwrites) the >>>> >>bootloader of the primary hard drive; it doesn't change any of the >>>> >>partitions, and therefore doesn't uninstall anything (except the >>>> >>bootloader --__--__-- Message: 54 Subject: RE: [TriLUG] [Trilug-announce] TriLUG Meeting Changes - Mark Turner from Lulu to give LDAP talk! Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 00:58:18 -0500 From: "Jim Ray" To: Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org Lemme know if Mark is speaking on LDAP at another time. I'd like to visit. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: JoJo Almario [mailto:jalmario@intrah.org] >> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 3:59 PM >> To: trilug@trilug.org >> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] [Trilug-announce] TriLUG Meeting Changes - Mark >> Turner from Lulu to give LDAP talk! >>=20 >> Or better yet. Lisa Do you know how I can get in contact with Mark per >> chance to have him give a similar talk to my group? >>=20 >> Ja >>=20 >> JoJo Almario wrote: >>=20 > >>> > Damnit! This would be the one meeting (about ldap) that i would hope >>> > to make...alas I cannot. I hope that some one is good enough to take >>> > careful notes and post them afterwards....PLEASE! >>> > >>> > JoJO >>> > >>> > Lisa C. Boyd wrote: >>> > >> >>>> >> Due to unfortunate circumstances, our speaker for tonight (Rob) was >>>> >> unable to make it. His flight was canceled and he could not get another >>>> >> flight in time for the meeting. >>>> >> >>>> >> Mark Turner from Lulu has agreed to speak on LDAP tonight. Mark has >>>> >> been working with LDAP for three years now, having deployed it in >>>> >> small offices as well as global environments. His diabolical plan is >>>> >> to make the world LDAP enabled. Since we haven't given Mark much >>>> >> notice, this will be an introductory talk showing how to get LDAP up >>>> >> and running. >>>> >> >>>> >> The Steering Committee will also be giving an official State of the >>>> >> LUG speech. We'll have the usual have a job/need a job time, free >>>> >> pizza and plenty of soft drinks. >>>> >> >>>> >> We are still going to meet in the Cox building at RTI [1 for >>>> >> directions]. We're sorry for all the last minute changes this month, >>>> >> but want to give a huge thanks to Mark for agreeing to speak tonight :) >>>> >> >>>> >> [1] http://www.trilug.org >>>> >> >>>> >> Lisa Boyd >>>> >> Outreach / Public Relations >>>> >> Triangle Linux Group (TriLUG) >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> Trilug-announce mailing list >>>> >> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug-announce >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> TriLUG mailing list >>>> >> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug >>>> >> TriLUG Organizational FAQ: >>>> >> http://www.trilug.org/~lovelace/faq/TriLUG-faq.html >> >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>=20 >> -- >>=20 >> JoJo Almario >> Network Administrator >> Intrah /UNC School of Medicine >> Office - XXX-XXX-XXXX >> Fax - XXX-XXX-XXXX >> jalmario@intrah.org >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> TriLUG mailing list >> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug >> TriLUG Organizational FAQ: >> http://www.trilug.org/~lovelace/faq/TriLUG-faq.html --__--__-- Message: 55 From: Sinner from the Prairy Organization: escomposlinux.org To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Nominate Roy Vestal Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 08:12:08 -0500 Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org On Thursday 09 January 2003 09:09 pm, Chris Hedemark wrote: >> On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 03:25 PM, Tanner Lovelace wrote: > >>> > I'd like to nominate Roy Vestal. Roy is the person that gets us the >>> > nice room at RTI (and, if it weren't for him, we wouldn't have a >>> > room this month). He also sets up the network connections so we >>> > can have network connectivity at the meetings. I think he would make >>> > a great addition to the steering committee. >> +1 +1=20 >> Roy is one of our many unsung heroes. Roy is also a merry fellow. Anyone thinking on getting a beowulf cluster = of=20 old laptops **should** be in the SC >> OK so my +1 doesn't count since I became a Pennsylvania resident at >> 4:30 this afternoon and as such don't qualify for TriLUG membership >> anymore. =20 I think that you can still be part of TriLUG even if you are far away. II= RC,=20 there's someone else who is now a former resident of NC but still is part= of=20 TriLUG. You'll be missed my friend! >> I had planned on being at the meeting but was called in for >> an on-site final interview with a company in Philadelphia and literally >> jumped in the car and left. Regardless of how the interview goes, I >> now live in PA. Will continue hanging out on the list as long as is >> practical. Best wishes for the interview! Salut, Sinner --=20 http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/ Linux User # 89976 Running on Mandrake Linux 9.0 - Kernel 2.4.19smp Linux Machine # 38068 --__--__-- Message: 56 Subject: RE: [TriLUG] [Trilug-announce] TriLUG Meeting Changes - Mark Turner from Lulu to give LDAP talk! From: Mark Turner To: trilug@trilug.org Date: 10 Jan 2003 09:01:50 -0500 Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org Hopefully, that will be the case! I'd like another crack at it once I've mastered Openoffice Impress and have some time to set up an ACTUAL SERVER for demonstrations. :) Mark On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 00:58, Jim Ray wrote: >> Lemme know if Mark is speaking on LDAP at another time. I'd like to >> visit. >> --__--__-- Message: 57 Subject: RE: [TriLUG] [Trilug-announce] TriLUG Meeting Changes - Mark Turner from Lulu to give LDAP talk! From: Michael Thompson To: trilug@trilug.org Date: 10 Jan 2003 09:17:59 -0500 Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org A good subject for a full blown class? (I know that I would attend!) --mwt On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 09:01, Mark Turner wrote: >> Hopefully, that will be the case! I'd like another crack at it once I've >> mastered Openoffice Impress and have some time to set up an ACTUAL >> SERVER for demonstrations. :) >> >> Mark >> >> On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 00:58, Jim Ray wrote: > >>> > Lemme know if Mark is speaking on LDAP at another time. I'd like to >>> > visit. >>> > > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TriLUG mailing list >> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug >> TriLUG Organizational FAQ: >> http://www.trilug.org/~lovelace/faq/TriLUG-faq.html >> --__--__-- Message: 58 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:25:52 -0500 From: Mike Broome To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] printer drivers Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org I don't know anything about the Canon i550, but searching with Google, I found the following thread about drivers for it on the canon discussion list at linuxprinting.org. first post: http://www.linuxprinting.org/pipermail/canon-list/2002q4/000656.html entire thread: http://www.linuxprinting.org/pipermail/canon-list/2002q4/thread.html#656 Mike On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 11:01:23PM -0500, Elremx@apple.netscape2.comscape.net wrote: >> Any ideas on how I can get a canon i550 to work in mandrake ? I haven't been able to find a driver for it. >> >> Merle Watts -- Mike Broome mbroome at employees dot org --__--__-- Message: 59 From: Sinner from the Prairy > Any ideas on how I can get a canon i550 to work in mandrake ? I haven'= t >> been able to find a driver for it. Visit http://www.linuxprinting.org And use CUPS ! Salut, Sinner --=20 http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/ Linux User # 89976 Running on Mandrake Linux 9.0 - Kernel 2.4.19smp Linux Machine # 38068 --__--__-- Message: 60 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:51:57 -0500 From: Elremx@apple.netscape2.comscape.net To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] printer drivers Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org Got the printer going Thanks __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ --__--__-- Message: 61 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:53:12 -0500 From: "Lisa C. Boyd" To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] [Trilug-announce] TriLUG Meeting Changes - Mark Turner from Lulu to give LDAP talk! Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org Michael Thompson wrote: >> A good subject for a full blown class? (I know that I would attend!) LDAP - class - more notice to Mark - got it. Lisa B. :) --__--__-- Message: 62 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:12:29 -0500 From: bp To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: [TriLUG] 1 or 2 nics inside the lan? Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org I currently run my Red Hat 8 beta server behind a firewall appliance. The linux box has two nics. One setup to use dhcp and provide smb services to the LAN. The other nic was setup with a static ip and the router was given this ip as the dmz. This was setup in a hurry and i'll be the first to admit it wasn't my finest work. The dmz nic only listens to http/s, and ssh traffic. The annoying part of this is that I'm out of ports on my switch, when I pull either cable from my server she dies because the routing table makes it act as 'in one nic, out the other'. I realize I could probably tweak this with some smart route add cmds - but since I'm in the mood to reimage for a few reasons I thought I'd keep this question design oriented. I'd like the list's impression about the security benefits of using two physical nics? I'm thinking about pulling the second nic and setting the router up to only forward 22,80,443. (Obviously safer than the current dmz config) My original concern was that I didn't want any of my samba shares leaked outside my LAN which is why I bound it to the internal only nic of the current setup. I'm thinking of blowing everything away to install the stable version of rh8 soon, the current install was from a borrowed set of disk labeled "rh8 beta". Is the psyche build fairly stable? Does the bundled Apache also include a current version of PHP? Anyone know if ImageMagik is included with this release? (Biggest use of the web server is a web gallery that uses a php/imagemagik app) Anyone think it'd be a good time to try out another distro or BSD if they're better suited to a headless, no X, server setup? Thanks and sorry to ask vague questions.... -bp --__--__-- Message: 63 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:13:51 -0500 From: "Lisa C. Boyd" To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] linuux mouse kvm problems Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org David R. Matusiak wrote: >> this whole dealy scares me /real/ bad. i need a KVM solution in the >> worst way, but i have been putting it off because of lack of $$$ and >> phantom issues like those listed in this thread. i'd hate to lay out >> $150 + cables and wind up *still* having multiple thingies (in this >> case, mice) connected. I also remember Tanner (I think?) suggesting that the cables may be what was causing my monitor flakiness - I have double-shielded cables and triple-shielded ones are better but also more expensive. Also it seems as though people who have the powered ones are better off. FWIW, the power flickered here the other day long enough to crash my computers (yeah, I know - get an aps) - I couldn't get my KVM switch to work right. I haven't figured out exactly what happened yet - but the keyboard stopped working. When I unplugged and plugged the keyboard back in I saw some cool little blue sparks. So basically I've disconnected everything from the KVM right now until I can do some more testing. Don't let the horror stories scare you away though - seems like others have had much better experiences with some other brands (mine is Belkin). Lisa B. --__--__-- Message: 64 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:26:18 -0500 From: "Lisa C. Boyd" To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Win4Lin(was linuux mouse kvm problems) Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org Roy Vestal wrote: >> Be careful. M$ has officially stopped supporting Win95 and plans to stop >> supporting Win98/Me by the end of Summer 2003. This will affect those >> that use Win4Lin, suchas myself. Well, to be honest, I don't use Microsoft support anyways so I wouldn't care about calling them with questions :) Although I have Win2k so since that isn't supported under Win4Lin I might have to rethink some things. >> Just out of curiosity, why do you still have windows? The deal is this - I come from a graphics/printing background. I used macs several years then switch mostly to PCs and now trying to switch to Linux stuff. When I have to do something (most of the time it's on deadline and quick ones at that), I have to go with what I know best. I've used Illustrator/Photoshop/Quark for about 10 years now. It's hard to switch over to different programs and work quickly. I know I've heard people sing the praises of gimp and I hope to learn it one day, but if I have to do anything now - it's going to be in Photoshop thus on Windows. I'm not even sure what the corresponding programs might be for Illustrator and Quark? I also have this really cool program that I love to use for CSS (TopStyle). It's only for Windows. Granted I could code CSS by hand in Quanta (which is what I use for html/php, etc.) but TopStyle has some really good features that help me get work done efficiently. So now that I've probably given you too much info :) that's why I need to switch back and forth between Linux and Windows. Lisa B. :) PS. I've been dreaming of a Mac OSX machine but even then I'd have to buy all my programs (Adobe, Quark) again and some I'd have to either do without or use Windows for. --__--__-- Message: 65 From: "Greg Brown" To: Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:32:39 -0500 Subject: [TriLUG] best method of auto mail deletion? Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org Hey all. I have created a mailbox on my work Linux box (RH 7.1) which I'd like to use as a black-hole mailbox. I simply want to delete every message that arrives at dontbotherme@apple.netscape2.comscape2.com. Any ideas on the best way to do this? Greg --__--__-- Message: 66 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:39:14 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Perrin To: trilug@trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] best method of auto mail deletion? Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org My solution has been to create the user, then do the following: .forward: |/usr/bin/procmail .procmailrc: DEFAULT=/dev/null LOGFILE=procmail.log (the LOGFILE entry just lets you check, in retrospect, that a message was received and dumped). If you really just want to dump everything, you could always do: ln -s /var/spool/mail/dontbotherme /dev/null There's probably a way to do it using /etc/aliases too but I don't know it. ap ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew J Perrin - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Assistant Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill clists@perrin.socsci.unc.edu * andrew_perrin (at) unc.edu On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Greg Brown wrote: >> Hey all. I have created a mailbox on my work Linux box (RH 7.1) which I'd >> like to use as a black-hole mailbox. I simply want to delete every message >> that arrives at dontbotherme@apple.netscape2.comscape2.com. Any ideas on the best >> way to do this? >> >> Greg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TriLUG mailing list >> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug >> TriLUG Organizational FAQ: >> http://www.trilug.org/~lovelace/faq/TriLUG-faq.html >> --__--__-- Message: 67 Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Win4Lin(was linuux mouse kvm problems) From: Jeremy Portzer To: trilug@trilug.org Date: 10 Jan 2003 11:47:56 -0500 Reply-To: trilug@trilug.org On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 11:26, Lisa C. Boyd wrote: >> Roy Vestal wrote: > >>> > Be careful. M$ has officially stopped supporting Win95 and plans to stop >>> > supporting Win98/Me by the end of Summer 2003. This will affect those >>> > that use Win4Lin, suchas myself. > >> >> Well, to be honest, I don't use Microsoft support anyways so I wouldn't >> care about calling them with questions :) Although I have Win2k so since >> that isn't supported under Win4Lin I might have to rethink some things. I think by "support" he meant that Microsoft will stop releasing hotfixes and updates to fix security and other bugs. Also, many prefer vmware to win4lin because it supports both Windows 2000 and Windows XP in addition to the 9x/Me product line. With vmware you can also install Linux virtual machines, which is handy for running multiple distributions on the same computer. >> I've used Illustrator/Photoshop/Quark for about 10 years now. It's hard >> to switch over to different programs and work quickly. I know I've heard >> people sing the praises of gimp and I hope to learn it one day, but if I >> have to do anything now - it's going to be in Photoshop thus on Windows. >> I'm not even sure what the corresponding programs might be for >> Illustrator and Quark? While the gimp is great for basic and intermediate image editing, it's still not nearly as powerful and intuitive as photoshop. And I don't know that there are programs anywhere near the level of Illustrator and Quark. I agree that Linux does not have the support for graphics programs that Mac OS and Windows do. For the time being, you'll have to continue as you are -- using separate boxes -- or switch to something like vmware or Win4Lin. While this sucks from a complete Linux advocacy standpoint, there's always something to be said about using the right tool for the job. If you really want to avoid Microsoft operating systems, save up for the Mac OS X box. :-) --Jeremy --__--__-- _______________________________________________ TriLUG mailing list TriLUG@trilug.org http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug End of TriLUG Digest